How low can I go?

Ozfords · 12-03-2006, 08:34 AM

Hey gang, I've been thinking alot lately, I know I've been thinking because it hurts. But anyway I can get my hands on some King Springs. Packing your standard KYB shocks, I was wondering, without going as far as getting short travel shocks which Kingspring is for the ED?

Lows or Superlows?

Plus, would Lows make much of a difference? The ED sits a couple of metres off the ground...

**Polyal** · 12-03-2006, 09:33 AM

Well I would go lows.

Superlows look cool but are a bit unpractical...I mean unless you do track work I dont see the point of it being "that" low.

Although I cant remember exactly how low "lows" are exactly, but I am sure its enough for a big improvement over stock.

Jason[98.EL] · 29-12-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Well I would go lows.

Superlows look cool but are a bit unpractical...I mean unless you do track work I dont see the point of it being "that" low.

Although I cant remember exactly how low "lows" are exactly, but I am sure its enough for a big improvement over stock.

go super lows

i have king lows in my el

this is one of my el on the lows

i want it a bit lower so im guessing that super lows would be the way to go

hehe i should look at the dates lol

jason

347Stroker · 12-03-2006, 10:29 AM

I would use lows...superlows are great for looks, but really hinder cornering ability. What you are actually doing is upsetting the geometry to a point that the cars roll centers are higher than designed, so you get pitch and roll into corners.
Lows are a practical, and sensible height.
As a note, I just installed superlows into the wifes NL Fairlane Concorde, and whilst looking fantastic (it doesnt need to handle, its the grocery cart) when I installed some 18x8 wheels with 245/40/18's front and rear, it scrubs.....now off to get some more ELGT's for her car....
Superlows on a track would be terrible...

HSVETAR · 12-03-2006, 10:39 AM

Suff practability!!!!! If we wanted practability we would keep out cars stock!!!!!! Dont be a pussy! youl regret it. Get superlows!!!

BLKPHN · 12-03-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HSVETAR

Suff practability!!!!! If we wanted practability we would keep out cars stock!!!!!! Dont be a pussy! youl regret it. Get superlows!!!

go the whole hog and get ultra lows!!!

HSVETAR · 13-03-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ebmanul

go the whole hog and get ultra lows!!!

Yea bloody othe!!!! Ultras look fat as.

ON_DUBS · 12-03-2006, 10:42 AM

i have superlows in my ED and it has no cornering problems it handles excellently. been out driving in the hills a couple of times now and it really sticks to the corners at high speed.

however if i was going to do it all again i would fit lows. superlows are too low, you have to slow right down for bumps in the road, reverse diagonally out of driveways etc

TURBO_GHIA · 12-03-2006, 10:42 AM

get superlows and kyb shocks man i had that setup in the EB and it was tuff

xxxc · 12-03-2006, 04:33 PM

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go the whole hog and get ultra lows!!!

what he said, sif superlows are gonna stuff the handleing capabilitys ,lol stop being pussy and get ultralows up ya!!!

dansedgli · 12-03-2006, 04:37 PM

Ultralows minus 1 coil for the win

Ozfords · 13-03-2006, 12:56 PM

I'm stoked with the response there guys, I was happy as can be when I bumped into a customer on weekend with a phat looking EB when he told me that the Superlows are just fine with standard shocks!

But just one more question, the legality of superlows... are they legal in NSW? Anyone had issues with the porkers? I need to know this because of the line of work I'll be going into and no its not the RTA before I start getting hate mail.

But I did have a gander at the Ultra Lows, that would have been awesome, but its a daily driver the old Monty and even with KYBs she's a bit of a boat on corners.

HSVETAR · 13-03-2006, 01:27 PM

I dont live in NSW, but i dont think they would be illeagle. I mean they are low, but they arnt belly scraping low.

13-03-2006, 02:04 PM

i have superlows alround and dont have many problems with them. i do get scrapage on some speed humps but its generally not that bad. only other problem i have is tyre rubs on the plastic inner guard on the front when cornering hard. only does it with 17's though. stockies its fine.

**Polyal** · 13-03-2006, 04:19 PM

and the point is that puss.y footing around everywhere worth while?

Its not like lows are "high".....Im jus talking from experience. I had super lows (even cut) and its just a pain in the backside.

But hey if you have no mechanical sympathy then go for it.

Damo · 13-03-2006, 09:09 PM

lows just look stock in most cases, you'd be better off not borthering at all. Just put superlows in.

Tiga_EL · 13-03-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Damo

lows just look stock in most cases, you'd be better off not borthering at all. Just put superlows in.

Agreed!, Id go superlows.. I have superlows in mine.. And i want to go lower but i cant coz my cars a piece of ИИИИ and keeps vibrating.

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But if i had another shot id go ultra lows just for the hell of it and it gets so much attention being "dumpt on its tits"

InitialD · 13-03-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Damo

lows just look stock in most cases, you'd be better off not borthering at all. Just put superlows in.

I dunno dude :P

I have King Superlows + Monroe GT shockers in my car and just fitted King Lows with the identical same shockers to the ED XR6 wagon and the wagon sits the same height as the mickmobile

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Poetic Justice · 13-03-2006, 09:25 PM

i vote for ultra lows but im biased

-jjM- · 13-03-2006, 09:53 PM

is there a spring for scrapage on the road?

bakes_eb · 13-03-2006, 10:00 PM

yeh go ultra lows i have them in my car and i dont have any scrapage issues its only if you wanna drive like a hoon and be in a hurry that you will have issues.

Poetic Justice · 13-03-2006, 10:01 PM

yeah, what bakes eb said.

ie. dont approach speed bumps too fast... i learnt that the hard way ;)

24K EA · 14-03-2006, 03:43 AM

when putting super lows all round in an EA fairmont ghia do you have to change anything like putting shortend front struts and shockers or is it a matter of take old springs out and super low springs in.

Ozfords · 14-03-2006, 05:55 PM

Thanks gang for the generous input, I'll be the new owner of some fresh out of the wrapping Super Low King Springs and one day I'll pick up some super fine cross drilled slotted rotors from DBA with that awesome Kangaroo Print and some Bendix pads to go with it.

Next stop supercharging that donk...

lukey_boy · 29-12-2006, 10:35 AM

with NSW laws you are fine to put in anything as long as you have 4 inches/10cm free under the car in the lowest point with the average amount of people you would have in the car so yeah hope that helps for what its work

EBTom · 29-12-2006, 12:09 PM

Its true that lows dont make a huge difference but it is still definitly noticable. Gives more of a sporty look rather than a dumped look.
Heres a before and after of mine. Back sits nice but front didnt seem to be affected too much.

hmc 'mont · 29-12-2006, 12:27 PM

in wa they have a 100mm raised concrete block which you have to drive over and if anything except maybe the flaps scrape then its illeagle.

Ozfords · 29-12-2006, 03:01 PM

Holy resurrected threads batman.

I've dumped me bad boy on Super Lows, now I'm sizeing up some nice alloys (nope no chromies going on this old boy!), but I'm torn, common sense 17" or go all out and 19"s of raw alloy.

Choices, choices...

malta123 · 29-12-2006, 04:38 PM

i went super low and its still not enough i dont scrap on anything at all get em compressed it will look horn

**Sorted** · 29-12-2006, 05:39 PM

I have King Lows as well as when I got them fitted I didnt ask for Super Lows only Lows..............

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Lows leave about a 1 inch gap from the top of the tyre to the gaurd but superlows will get rid of any gap..........

Correct me if I am wrong..........

If I park next to a stock EF or EL that is not lowered at all there is a big difference BUT if I had Super Lows fitted there would be a HUGE difference