Petition to end HD-DVD/Blu Ray format War

[Jeeepers]

Originally Posted by vandrsxr6

Correct, at this stage they are leaning towrads HD-DVD. If this happens then Blu-ray will be dead.

Who would have thought getting your knickers off could end a war?

[TadKa]

well I was about to go out and get the hd drive addon for the xbox. maybe I'll hold off a while. only a couple hundred bucks though.

[Daymoe]

Originally Posted by vandrsxr6

Correct, at this stage they are leaning towrads HD-DVD. If this happens then Blu-ray will be dead.

Yeah, they were talking about it in one of my PC USER magazines. But i think that industry is moving towards internet distribution (I'm no expert on the matter)

[bob^]

Originally Posted by 90sFTW

Well it wouldn't suprise me, how much advertising for HDDVD do you see in Australia compared to Blu-ray? I have not seen ONE advert about HDDVD.

HD-DVD and Ford use the same marketing team ;)

[Quasi]

Originally Posted by Grunter

I can't see HD DVD "winning", and that is unfortunate given it is a finished format and for us Aussies being regoin free, makes it possible to get cheaper movies from the US.

Yes, a real shame that gullible people buy whatever is spoon fed to them as what they need, instead of making a decision for themselves. PS3 sales have also driven the Blu-Ray sales, and again this is marketing.

I have neither, and at this point in time have no plans to race out and buy one player or the other. I don't need either format, and am in no hurry to grab a PS3 (or Xbox360 for that matter).

In addition....online petitions do SFA, as the whole thing is publicity for products and both sides will drag it out as long as possible.

As for sales people advising which way to go.....99% of them give advice based solely on personal preference, or incentives from manufacturers and distributors. Since only about 1% of sales people actually have any clue about the product they are perfectly matched to advise a similar ercentage of consumers.

[Ives]

Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

Can I tell the difference? .

I can only tell the difference when it's side-by-side. Maybe if im used to watching movie on blu-ray... i might be able to tell if i downgrade to DVD. But yeah at the moment I wouldnt be able to tell the difference.

[bob^]

Do you have a TV capable of displaying blu-ray or HD-DVD? If you do, that's where it blows it away. The quality is amazing VS a DVD. If your DVD player up-scales, that does make it look better, but it will never match a high definition format.

[onfire]

Porn Industry May Decide DVD Format War
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,245638,00.html

[Jerry]

Porn industry dropping HD DVD

http://www.tvpredictions.com/forum/i...y080116-081248

[ON_DUBS]

wow that petition has a whopping 95 signatures!

looks like people dont really give a .
who would have thought...

[AusM]

Several companies are making dual format players - ie play both BD & HDDVD - so why not support those manufacturers and forget the 'war'?

LG - Sony - NEC - Samsung...

[JG66ME]

Originally Posted by onfire

Which ever one the porn industry exclusively goes with will be the winner.

I would of thought glasses would be needed rather than just High Definition after you go blind from feeding the chickens.

Sorry, couldn't help it.

Steve

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by PFdesign

Several companies are making dual format players - ie play both BD & HDDVD - so why not support those manufacturers and forget the 'war'?

LG - Sony - NEC - Samsung...

Sony are behind Blu-Ray, its payback for losing out on the CD, and then DVD formats.

[chevypower]

yeah the only dual format players are the LG and Samsung BD-UP5000. The Samsung was axed only a month after it came out, because it had problems playing a lot of movies. I saw the LG, and the picture looked "blocky", even my wife noticed it. When the wife notices something like that before I even said anything, that's gotta suck. Dual format players would only drag the format war on even longer. Sony make a player that supports HD-DVD??? Have they started making flying pigs yet? Never in a lifetime!

[AusM]

Edit: LG - NEC - Samsung (sorry, I misread a Sony story)
Samsung was initially axed, but they have a new version out shortly...

[Homer1]

Originally Posted by vandrsxr6

Correct, at this stage they are leaning towrads HD-DVD. If this happens then Blu-ray will be dead.

I doubt that the porn inductry will have as much influence this time round as it did in VHS vs Beta considering how easy it is to download it off the net nowadays.

IMO though HD DVD is dead, its being outsold comprehensively everywhere and WBs decision to go Blu sealed the deal, watch Paramount and Universal follow in the near future.

Also if anyone has compared the pics from CES this year of the Blu-Ray and HD DVD booths, the setup and amount of interest generated tells the whole story!

[farah9]

Originally Posted by bob^

Do you have a TV capable of displaying blu-ray or HD-DVD? If you do, that's where it blows it away. The quality is amazing VS a DVD. If your DVD player up-scales, that does make it look better, but it will never match a high definition format.

Yeah, I have to agree, I noticed the difference straight away. The main problem blu-ray facing is, that the only current blu-ray players that can be upgraded to use the extra features being put on blu-ray v2.0 is the ps3, So all the people that went out straight away and bought a blu-ray player will need a new player or not use the new features.
Glad I went for the ps3.

[AusM]

Originally Posted by Homer1

I doubt that the porn inductry will have as much influence this time round as it did in VHS vs Beta considering how easy it is to download it off the net nowadays.

And people rip and share BD and HDDVD movies via the net too! Discs in general are a dying breed and the future is via download/streaming. I remember in 2000 seeing a feature film streamed via Boeing's encrypted satellite, direct from the 'states to a digital projector. Digital cinemas are all over the US and even at computer level there is plenty of progress on high quality online video.

We just need to get our internet up to scratch in Australia... thanks for nothing Johnny - we won't be waiting for you to say, "Sorry!".

[Homer1]

Originally Posted by PFdesign

And people rip and share BD and HDDVD movies via the net too! Discs in general are a dying breed and the future is via download/streaming. I remember in 2000 seeing a feature film streamed via Boeing's encrypted satellite, direct from the 'states to a digital projector. Digital cinemas are all over the US and even at computer level there is plenty of progress on high quality online video.

We just need to get our internet up to scratch in Australia... thanks for nothing Johnny - we won't be waiting for you to say, "Sorry!".

True, but it will be a very, very slow process, especially with the state and quality of our internet infrastructure. Asia and the US will be in the best position to adapt it way before everyone else.

As I mentioned in my previous post, HD DVD is most likely gonna die soon...the pics here tell the whole story

http://www.tgdaily.com/index.php?opt...1&currentPic=1

[XR06T]

i hate region coding, and love porn, so hd dvd for me!! hahahahahaha

[Homer1]

Originally Posted by XR06T

i hate region coding, and love porn, so hd dvd for me!! hahahahahaha

LOL! Well I hope you enjoy it while it's still around

[Jeeepers]

Originally Posted by PFdesign

We just need to get our internet up to scratch in Australia...

Absolutely on the mark. As usual, we in Australia get left in the wake when it comes to household technologies. We got colour TV 10 years behind Europe and the US. Cable TV was around long before we got it. We now enjoy Internet speeds far below our overseas neighbours.

[BlackLS]

Better internet in what way?

Speed, Land mass covered, costs?

Australia is pretty good with speed, we have ADSL2+ fairly avaliable on copper, but there are data limits. The US on the other hand doesn't have ADSL2+, but their 1.5mb plans are limitless.

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by ORSMT

Absolutely on the mark. As usual, we in Australia get left in the wake when it comes to household technologies. We got colour TV 10 years behind Europe and the US. Cable TV was around long before we got it. We now enjoy Internet speeds far below our overseas neighbours.

We are a huge country, with a tiny population. The rate of return on the investment is just not good enough to entice investors, when much better returns can be found elsewhere. If there was money in it, it would be done, thats the nature of business investment, and lets face it, thats what it is.

In the US, private companies roll out the technology, here, the government is expected to roll it out using taxpayers money, then sell the infrastructure cheap, on loans with ridiculously low or no interest, and not lose taxpayers money doing it.

Without getting into politics, this is what the current government is talking about doing, using taxpayers funds to roll out infrastructure to give us world class internet, compared to Liberals idea of letting private enterprise roll it out letting the market dictate the terms. Private enterprise will roll out some tech, but not at world class levels, but youll pay world class service prices for it. It wont be priced on world standards, it will be priced on what competition they face here.

[AusM]

Basically speed vs cost. Aus has good coverage to urban areas and our geography makes it tougher for the rest and makes it difficult to compare to other countries.

A quick search trawled up these:

2003:

DR SAM Paltridge of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development asked me in his Paris office, "Guess what you get for $A50 a month from a broadband operator in Paris?"
The answer: internet download speeds of up to 24 megabits a second and unlimited downloads, at least 100 television channels in the basic package (and the offer of another 100 channels if you pay extra), unlimited voice-over-internet protocol calls within France, and phone calls to other countries that save heaps — all offered with no maximum contract periods for customers.

17 July 2007: The OECD has passed judgement on Australia's broadband in a study calling it among the slowest and most expensive in the world, however, Communications Minister Helen Coonan claims it was a "strong report card" for the nation's infrastructure.
The OECD (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development) Communications Outlook 2007 report found that Australia's broadband was among the world's most expensive and among the slowest.
The OECD report studied the average download speed for the incumbent telco -- in Australia's case Telstra -- in each of the 30 industrialised countries that are OECD members and found Australia second from bottom, beaten by the likes of Poland, Belgium and Mexico.

August 29, 2007: TOKYO -- Americans invented the Internet, but the Japanese are running away with it. Broadband service here is eight to 30 times as fast as in the United States -- and considerably cheaper. Japan has the world's fastest Internet connections, delivering more data at a lower cost than anywhere else, recent studies show.
Accelerating broadband speed in this country -- as well as in South Korea and much of Europe -- is pushing open doors to Internet innovation that are likely to remain closed for years to come in much of the United States.
The speed advantage allows the Japanese to watch broadcast-quality, full-screen television over the Internet, an experience that mocks the grainy, wallet-size images Americans endure.
Ultra-high-speed applications are being rolled out for low-cost, high-definition teleconferencing, for telemedicine -- which allows urban doctors to diagnose diseases from a distance -- and for advanced telecommuting to help Japan meet its goal of doubling the number of people who work from home by 2010.

[AusM]

... and outdated copper lines that need to go fibre optic...

[gozza]

I hate Fan Boys - I know too many PS3 Fan Boys - So Blu Ray can suck the big one -

[Homer1]

Originally Posted by gozza

I hate Fan Boys - I know too many PS3 Fan Boys - So Blu Ray can suck the big one -

HD DVD is dead, whichever was the better format is another ball game though but is irrelavent now as the facts speak for themselves and no "fan boy" can change that.

[gozza]

Yes - PS3 using Blu Ray essentially has nothing to do with Blu Ray as a format...

Unfortunately all i ever hear from PS3 owners is Blu Ray this Blu Ray that .. But im bringing in another topic really.. It was an impulse comment lol

[BionicGT]

That's because the PS3 is the best Blu-ray player on the market. Many Home Theatre & PC mags have tested it and agreed it has the best picture quality and the fastest loading times. I have a PS3 feeding a high def projector and a 2.5 metre screen and the Blu-ray movies are awesome. Makes standard DVDs look pretty ordinary. The PS3 can also stream media from any PC in your house on your LAN onto your TV or projector.

For the record, Blu-ray is the superior technology (higher disk capacity, higher data transfer rates - means faster content loading and better picture - as well as being more future proof (disk holds more content). Now Warner has declared they will release in Blu-ray only, HD-DVD is doomed. Disney will also launch this year a premium Blu-ray movie release (best of their best carefully transferred to Blu-ray disk).