Just how much flogging can a Falcon 6 take?

[EBFalcs]

i thrashed the **** out of my EA CFI 3 spd auto and my EBII 4L auto wagon, and never had a problem, when i had the wagon a few people actually said they had never seen it being babied, they said everytime they saw me it was flat out redline. i used to love the kick down at 50km/h, i'd alway do it just to feel it even if i was in the middle of nowhere i'd get bored driving so i'd slow down and floor it then i'd stop a couple of times and test the 0-100 times, this was almost everyday.

[castek]

Originally Posted by SVO_XR6

I have an after market tahcho in mine whichs reads upto 11,000rpm, lets see a falcon motor do that lol :nutsycuck

i've seen one do close to 9000, is that good enough? some race motor in a cortina wagon.

[Rollin]

Just to let you all know - I clicked over 219,000km on the skidpan at Gympie on the weekend - the car spent most of the day flat to the boards or close to it in first and second...Every time I got off the pad I let it idle for a bit with the bonnet up - to give you some idea of how much of a caining it got, the compressor side of the intercooler and the piping was too hot to touch!

Its running somewhere around 10-12psi at the moment because the wastegate is a bit dodgy, and it's only really tuned to 6 (fuel and spark above that are just guesses on my part)

And I gave it a proper caning all weekend at powercruise last month too.

Long Live the I6!!!!

[T_Terror]

Originally Posted by ELAUBA

Hmmm. My rally car was once an I6, before being changed to a V8 a few years ago (EL XR8, set up for gravel). At the last planned event before the engine change we ended up throwing a rod. It was a hot day and sitting in the forest for a few hours with nothing to drink was not that an attractive option so we decided to press on to get as close to the up-coming spectator point as possible.

About 2km later, a second rod went. Amazingly, the engine would still run and responded to the throttle, although when the third one went about 500m later we slowly ground to a halt. Piston, sump and block were peppered with holes. #5 rod cracked the steering rack and the starter motor was also clipped by a passing piece of debris.

When we pulled everything apart, we found the head of a valve on the sumpguard. It had been broken off and made its way through a hole in the piston and out a hole in the sump.

That sounds very interesting, would love to see some pics of a rally XR8.

BTW you hold the title of thrashing the falcon the hardest.

[DEVL-XR]

just something to ponder about....
two cars with the exact same motor, lets say two manual EB XR6's which have 161kw, ones driven hard as all the time right up to today from when it left the factory and the other is always driven slow and steady like a grandma for the same time, both motors have 170,000km's on the clock. which one would be faster??

[Pouki]

Originally Posted by gthofan

whats wrong with being an enthusiast like myself, who loves a nice easy going drive, in a good looking car, rather than thrashing it, wasting gallons more petrol in the process, and putting undue strain on the engine and driveline, when there is no need for it.

i know this was said ages ago but i agree, i like to just cruise, and sometimes when its called for give it a bit but never red line it or go over 4000rpm.
thats only if u have a ******** holden driver next to u :

[CaRtZ]

regular driving it wont see 4000. bagen em up at my mates farm its seen 5500 but i try to keep it under 5...

[T_Terror]

Originally Posted by BradensEBxr6

just something to ponder about....
two cars with the exact same motor, lets say two manual EB XR6's which have 161kw, ones driven hard as all the time right up to today from when it left the factory and the other is always driven slow and steady like a grandma for the same time, both motors have 170,000km's on the clock. which one would be faster??

If theyre both maintained (and run in!) properly then the one that was driven harder will make more power.

Itll be more "looser" and the bores wont be glazed so less frictional losses.

[DEVL-XR]

yeh thats what i thought, so my point is that its healthy to give your car a bit of a flogging sometimes!! : :eclipsee_ :

[XR_Lightning]

its a fact that the more you baby a car the less performance it will give out, by babying the car, carbon (unburned fuel) will build up on top of the pistons, giving your car a good going every now and then breaks up all the carbon

[penrith_panther]

try cleaning throttle sensor plug

[andrewts]

Originally Posted by EB_Lightning

its a fact that the more you baby a car the less performance it will give out, by babying the car, carbon (unburned fuel) will build up on top of the pistons, giving your car a good going every now and then breaks up all the carbon

Yeah, that's why cars owned by 80 year olds tend to perform like 80 year olds. :P

[Aaron_EF8]

So if I buy a new Falcon then thrash it for 900,000km it should make 250rwkw?

[EBFalcs]

Originally Posted by Aaron_EF8

So if I buy a new Falcon then thrash it for 900,000km it should make 250rwkw?

no it will make factory KW instead of loosing them, it won't gain power it just wont lose it, as quick.

also i believe a thrashed car goes hard because everything has been worn in to run at decent revs

[nothin suss]

Falcon sixes love rev limiter. I give some friends that live on a main road a neutral rev tune everytime i go past (5 days a week)..

Sometimes they are out the front and ****s themselves. It spits out a bit of unburnt crap, which wouldnt hurt it. Does it good to have a clean out i presume. Baap Baap Baap Baap.....

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by nothin suss

Falcon sixes love rev limiter. I give some friends that live on a main road a neutral rev tune everytime i go past (5 days a week)..

Sometimes they are out the front and ****s themselves. It spits out a bit of unburnt crap, which wouldnt hurt it. Does it good to have a clean out i presume. Baap Baap Baap Baap.....

damn i couldnt force myself to do that... :

[DOWN4U]

i get a whining noise at about 3500 - 4500..underload
and idea of what it could possibly be

[CaRtZ]

Originally Posted by nothin suss

Falcon sixes love rev limiter. I give some friends that live on a main road a neutral rev tune everytime i go past (5 days a week)..

Sometimes they are out the front and ****s themselves. It spits out a bit of unburnt crap, which wouldnt hurt it. Does it good to have a clean out i presume. Baap Baap Baap Baap.....

couldnt do it really.... its sounds like its working hard enough @ 5000 ! ! ! !

[DEVL-XR]

iv gone to rev limiter (redline) a few times but i dont like going that far, proberly at its point about 500 -700 revs under redline.

[gngtho]

If i don't give mine a hiding every second or third day it gets grumpy it's good to put some heat into it every now and then.

[DEVL-XR]

actually i know it sounds silly but thats so true!if i drive around for a week just granpa mode and then i decide to plant the foot, it dosent seem to want to very well, but if i plant the foot a bit more often then its quite happy to get up and boogie!
i kind notice that it'll chug a long a bit if its driving slower and sounds a bit grumpy!

[gozza]

well after reading this thread mines get a bit more of a flogging haha

[EB Pete]

Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

indeed.

I would see 5500rpm 10times+ a day. and find mr rev limiter atleast once a day.

i never see 5500rpm!!

5300 and see is bouncing. i know, somthing is wrong!


pete j

[SVT8]

Originally Posted by andrewts

Yeah, that's why cars owned by 80 year olds tend to perform like 80 year olds. :P

yep exactly what was wrong with my car when i first got it. It was owned by and elderly couple and when i would give the car a bit there was a pinging sound coming from the engine. Aparently it was carbon build up within the engine. Got it all cleaned and fixed the timing and the car felt ALOT faster...........funny if you think about it though, you would think that babying your car would keep the engine in top nick.

[5L]

eb pete 5300 is limiter, i reach that at least twice a week.

[EB Pete]

Originally Posted by eb5speed

eb pete 5300 is limiter, i reach that at least twice a week.

you sure?

my mates ed bounces at 5600-5700rpm and it's stock. maybe his tacho is out.

[nothin suss]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

damn i couldnt force myself to do that... :

It loves it..........

[andrewts]

Originally Posted by SVT8

funny if you think about it though, you would think that babying your car would keep the engine in top nick.

Well I'm sure that if that was the case, all the tachos out there would only go up to 2000RPM lol.

[DNKPWR]

Its good to give the car a floggin now and then!! it helps get all the built up carbon and stuff off the valves and Cat... thats if u still have a cat!!

[andrewts]

Yeah, that's if all the pressure hasn't popped if off. :P

Vroooooooomm-BANG-Braaaaaaaaaaaaaa hehe