drift e series

[ea_5_spd]

hey all

is there any1 out there driftin a e series?????
n/a 6, turbo 6 or 8

just chacin some tips on settin up sus on them 4 drifting

and lukey i not askin u lol


cheerz kenny

[eed-250]

send oplese (na edxr6) a pm he is probably the better one out of all of us.
I'm going for my virgin drift practice on the track next month(always done it on the road. Industrial drift comps :P) so ill let you know how i go. So yes there are a few members on here who drift, Rollin and Big6tim off the top of my head.

For drifting you need to lose some weight, manual gear box preffered tight lsd/spool/lokka whatever, stiff springs big swaybars and a bit of power.

[Nikked]

I beleve there is some, sorta hard when the handbreak is gay...

...probaly cost alot of ca$h to properly set up a E-drifter.

[eed-250]

nah i reckon if you bought a shitter EA GL and did that up you could come out the same price as a jap drifter would cost.... hydraulic handbrakes arent expensive iehter :P

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by eed-250

nah i reckon if you bought a shitter EA GL and did that up you could come out the same price as a jap drifter would cost.... hydraulic handbrakes arent expensive iehter :P

I was just takeing into account that There is a huge aftermarket advantage with somthing like a Silvia.

But you right i guess.

mmm, Hydraulic handbrake...

[ORSMEB]

oplese has a hydrolic handbrake...

[dave.747]

Thats mad. I want one.

[Rollin]

Stiff springs, stiff/adjustable shocks, stiff anti-roll bars, manual, lockright or locked diff - LSDs wear out far too quickly and aren't as predictable.

I'm yet to work out a way to get more steering lock though...one area E-series really suffer IMHO (at least, my EB did...)

I can't wait to get rid of this goddamn auto so I can drift again!!!!

[ea_5_spd]

well any1 from sa that was at the drift prac back in feb 2007 would have seen my drifta its a ea s pac was a 3 spd auto centre point then it was a n/a 4.0l mpi with a spool 5 spd and extreme clutch!!! and a hydro hand brake

here it is :::









now in a new undefected shell it has gainded 3inch zorst a air research turbo 50mm monsta waste gate 600/300/50 hybrid cooler gfb bov and a malpassi risin rate pressure reg runnin 8psi

had a walbro fuel pump in it but died :( now gettin a bosch pump should b all go 4 the 23 june 2007 only runnin standard sway bars just doin some research and findin wat others r using

cheerz 4 the interest shown

[eed-250]

killer man!! got any pics of the hydro handbreak?

[Polyal]

Very Very cool!

[kyro_02]

could always get an ef/el :P

[BI6TIM]

Originally Posted by kyro_02

could always get an ef/el :P

Don't be silly. Have you actually ever tried to pull a slide with the handbrake in an EF/EL?
It's hydraulic or be prepared to do alot of clutch kickin'.

[347_XR8]

TALK TO BI6TIM Kenny...
Screw the stiff shocks, springs idea, if ya gonna do it properly then go coilovers (set ya backa bit tho), whatever you do dont use cut king springs and come into Turn 1 at Mallala hot (remember what happened to Ev).
Diff wish, either a spool or 2-way Mechanical LSD...

Hurry up and get things ready for June 23rd Kenny :P

[Rollin]

Originally Posted by 347_XR8

TALK TO BI6TIM Kenny...
Screw the stiff shocks, springs idea, if ya gonna do it properly then go coilovers (set ya backa bit tho), whatever you do dont use cut king springs and come into Turn 1 at Mallala hot (remember what happened to Ev).
Diff wish, either a spool or 2-way Mechanical LSD...

Hurry up and get things ready for June 23rd Kenny :P

Er...coilovers are just stiff springs and shocks made into one unit, rather than two seperate ones....so therefore are the same...

The only difference is that with coilovers you get adjustable spring height.

And a lokka is a two way mechanical LSD...just a very VERY slip-limiting one.

[347_XR8]

Yeah key with suspenion is adjustable, spring height/rate/dampening etc tho. So being made into one unit that is fulla djustable would be the most logical move.
After reading up, its a case of try and use what the "import" drivers are using and try and adapt it to an E-series or trial and error lol

[BI6TIM]

As far as my research shows, there are three falcon diff options, for those who want to know.

1. The best option in my opinion is the KAAS two way. An excelent plate type LSD which has a rediculous warranty. They say something like "will spin two wheels for 200 000 k's". Don't quote me on that though. This is what Reece Millan uses in his cars in the states. Approximately $1800 fitted is what you would expect to pay.

2. Detroit Locker (the original). True mechanical locking. Like the KAAS, it comes as a totally self-contained unit, you put carrier bearings and a crown wheel on it and pop it into the diff housing. Also, like the KAAS, you would expect to pay about $1800ish fitted. The only thing you will hear from diff guys about the DT is that it is very violent in it's action.

3. Thirdly there is the Lockrite LOKKA. This is what Rollin uses in his car. Works in the same manner as the Detroit in that it locks by way of teeth (mechanical lock). However it differs from the detroit in two ways: It is assembled inside your open diff centre, the planetary gears are removed and replaced with Lockrite. The other way it differs from both of the other options is price.
You can get a Lockrite LOKKA delivered to your door (from SA to QLD) for about $600.

Of coarse there is always the mini spool option for about $100 plus fitting, but if you also want to drive your car on the street I would suggest you stay away from the mini spool.

[ea_5_spd]

cheerz lukey no cut kings i will have all my pedders stuff in by then!!!

ya i got a spool already and ya checkin out wat the import boys r usin and adapt with my e series!! i dont have any pics of the hydro at the moment its chillin in the shed at the moment need 2 fit it in the new shell!!!!

also cheerz bi6tim

23 june here i come

[lukey]

[Sprint347]

Originally Posted by BI6TIM

As far as my research shows, there are three falcon diff options, for those who want to know.

1. The best option in my opinion is the KAAS two way. An excelent plate type LSD which has a rediculous warranty. They say something like "will spin two wheels for 200 000 k's". Don't quote me on that though. This is what Reece Millan uses in his cars in the states. Approximately $1800 fitted is what you would expect to pay.

2. Detroit Locker (the original). True mechanical locking. Like the KAAS, it comes as a totally self-contained unit, you put carrier bearings and a crown wheel on it and pop it into the diff housing. Also, like the KAAS, you would expect to pay about $1800ish fitted. The only thing you will hear from diff guys about the DT is that it is very violent in it's action.

3. Thirdly there is the Lockrite LOKKA. This is what Rollin uses in his car. Works in the same manner as the Detroit in that it locks by way of teeth (mechanical lock). However it differs from the detroit in two ways: It is assembled inside your open diff centre, the planetary gears are removed and replaced with Lockrite. The other way it differs from both of the other options is price.
You can get a Lockrite LOKKA delivered to your door (from SA to QLD) for about $600.

Of coarse there is always the mini spool option for about $100 plus fitting, but if you also want to drive your car on the street I would suggest you stay away from the mini spool.

i started with standard LSD, that lasted 2 weeks.

i dropped in a lock-right (had this for approx 3 years)... and although its alot nicer than a minispool (which im hating right now) its still a bit too brutal for cruising around in the city.

i'll be going the kaaz next for sure

[Rollin]

nitrane - maybe yours wasn't assembled correctly?

When I first put my lokka in, it used to snag and snatch quite a bit, and was very noticable in its action.

I clipped a gutter and bent the axle housing, so I pulled it out and put it into another housing, but thought a bit harder about the orientation of the 4 little pins and springs when I put it back together, and now it is REALLY good.

In an auto, you wouldn't even know it's there, except for being able to make the inner tyre skip in carparks by gently applying the brake while holding light throttle and turning, and when it was in the manual it was nearly as nice.

Putting a lokka in was the best mod I've ever done, to any car, anywhere - I love it!

kazz is the way to go of course, but the 1200 dollar price difference is nowhere near worth it for me!

[RMCprime]

Ive been thinkin bout a lokka for a bit and was lookin on their website. Just wondering what is the part number to suit my ef gli...not sure of current ratio.

[BI6TIM]

Ratio means nothing to the LOKKA. Just tell them you want one for a Borg Warner diff in a falcon and they'll send it to you.

[efgiar]

ive read a few things about the lokka, are they noisy when turning or at high way speeds?

[Sprint347]

Originally Posted by Rollin

nitrane - maybe yours wasn't assembled correctly?

When I first put my lokka in, it used to snag and snatch quite a bit, and was very noticable in its action.

I clipped a gutter and bent the axle housing, so I pulled it out and put it into another housing, but thought a bit harder about the orientation of the 4 little pins and springs when I put it back together, and now it is REALLY good.

In an auto, you wouldn't even know it's there, except for being able to make the inner tyre skip in carparks by gently applying the brake while holding light throttle and turning, and when it was in the manual it was nearly as nice.

Putting a lokka in was the best mod I've ever done, to any car, anywhere - I love it!

kazz is the way to go of course, but the 1200 dollar price difference is nowhere near worth it for me!

Perhaps... I still have the lock-right sitting in the shed but that's destined for something else.

When we put the same centre in an auto car it was perfect, it was mainly when you backed off at low speed or cornering at low speed it would become 'clunky'.

I still wasn't a fan of the 'tram-lining' and driving through twisty roads at speed and feeling like the rear wheels were trying to push me off the road.

Don't get me wrong, it was a blast to drive... but i'm trying to get the car a little more street-friendly.

My friend gave me the serial # for the Kaaz he bought for his Borg, I'll be doing some research as I've seen these things for sale at less than $1200.

Will it still warrant double the price tag over the locker? I'll be sure to let you all know ;)

[ea_5_spd]

well i went the cheap way out and have a mini spool!!!!

this is not my daily lol my daily is the other ea in the second pic lol

does any1 have any hints on sus set up which was my reason 4 postin not 2 descuss different diffs lol but it was interesting 2 fine wat diffs ppls r using in eseries's

other than diff sus is gunna b the hardest thing 2 set up so any ideas welcome

[Rollin]

Originally Posted by efgiar

ive read a few things about the lokka, are they noisy when turning or at high way speeds?

Not at all. On the freeway you never hear it. It is most noisy doing slow speed turns, like when driving through crowded carparks etc. In that case you can hear it ratchet quietly.

It does have a fair bit of free-play, which shows up as driveline backlash - you can't let the car roll at idle in gear or it will start to pig-root, you have to feather the clutch when parking or driving at very low speed.

This never bothered me as I could never idle in first anyway - even when stock it would pig-root.

[nitrane]My friend gave me the serial # for the Kaaz he bought for his Borg, I'll be doing some research as I've seen these things for sale at less than $1200.

Will it still warrant double the price tag over the locker? I'll be sure to let you all know [/quote]

You can buy them for twice the price of a lokka, but you can't fit them yourself, you need to get a diff shop to lap in the new hemisphere to line the gears up.

Most places charge ~400 or more to remove, replace and re-lap a diff (with new bearings) so the final price is 3X the price of a lokka, which can be fitted at home

[Sprint347]

Yeah i always used to put my car in neutral when 'rolling around' at low speed.

I hear what you're saying, and price wise the lock-right is an awesome piece of gear... it was the greatest thing ever when i got it 4 years ago.

Now i'm looking for something that'll behave like a standard LSD but be TIGHT (and stay that way for a while)... I'm over brutal diffs... I've got the XD to get my spool fix

[Psycho Chicken]

So the lockrite drives exactly the same as a Detroit locker?

[ea_5_spd]

pretty much r!! i was gunna get 1 4 my daily but they weren't avaliable so i but a ef xr lsd in with 3.45 gears

but ya back on the sus topic!!!!