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Old 05-02-2025, 09:36 PM   #1
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Well, jan numbers are in and a drop in sales is predicted…

1 Toyota RAV4 5076
2 Ford Ranger 4254
3 Toyota HiLux 3302
4 Toyota Prado 2847
5 Mitsubishi Outlander 2090
6 Isuzu D-Max 2086
7 Mazda CX-5 1872
8 Kia Sportage 1826
9 Ford Everest 1679
10 Mazda CX-3 1608

Utes copping a bit of a hit compared to Jan 24 however this could be due to dock delays over industrial action,

Popular utes such as the Ford Ranger (-10.4 per cent), Toyota HiLux (-19.3 per cent) and Isuzu D-Max (-17.9 per cent) also fell in popularity.
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Brand January 2025 deliveries YoY difference
Toyota 18,424 +2.9%
Mazda 8322 +1.9%
Ford 6830 +3.1%
Kia 5720 +0.2%
Mitsubishi 5681 -3.9%
Hyundai 5478 -11.1%
MG 3740 -6.6%
GWM 3433 +9.9%
Nissan 3035 +12.4%
Subaru 2924 -4.7%
Isuzu Ute 2872 -23.6%
Volkswagen 2314 -14.8%
Chery 1837 +152.0%
Mercedes-Benz 1756 +28.6%
Suzuki 1431 -6.3%
BMW 1401 -12.5%
Honda 1260 -6.4%
LDV 1193 -34.2%
Audi 1014 +0.5%
Lexus 969 +11.0%
Tesla 739 -33.2%
BYD 675 -48.5%
Volvo 560 -13.0%
Porsche 468 -5.6%
Renault 419 +1.9%
Land Rover 405 -22.4%
Mini 349 +60.8%
Skoda 329 -32.2%
Chevrolet 322 +12.6%
KGM SsangYong 312 -33.3%
Ram 246 -27.6%
JAC 204 –
Cupra 187 +27.2%
Fiat 183 +32.6%
Jeep 145 -47.5%
Peugeot 107 -27.2%
Genesis 105 -19.2%
Polestar 82 -45.3%
Jaguar 40 -36.5%
Alfa Romeo 34 -63.8%
Lamborghini 25 +177.8%
Maserati 24 +0.0%
Leapmotor 22 –
Aston Martin 7 -12.5%
Bentley 5 -73.7%
Lotus 5 -44.4%
Rolls-Royce 5 +66.7%
Ferrari 3 -78.6%
McLaren 2 -33.3%
Citroen 1 -85.7%
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Ford numbers

Ford Escape – 2
Ford Everest – 1679
Ford F-150 – 230
Ford Mustang – 266
Ford Mustang Mach-E – 29
Ford Puma – 0
Ford Ranger 4x2 – 261
Ford Ranger 4x4 – 3993
Ford Tourneo – 35
Ford Transit Bus – 15
Ford Transit Custom – 192
Ford Transit Heavy – 128
Ford Total – 6830
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Good numbers for Prado but you wonder if Prado is taking sales away from the L300 after it was outsold again by the old Patrol 621 - 413
You also wonder how long Ram And Chevrolet can keep this up with numbers dwindling for both makes and with Tundra here now, it’s going to get worse for both. F150 for the second month running comfortably #1 in the big pickup segment.

Micro Kia Picanto (616) Fiat/Abarth 500 (30)
Light < $30k MG 3 (1151) Mazda 2 (524) Suzuki Swift (345)
Light > $30k Mini Cooper (134) Volkswagen Polo, Hyundai i20 (86) Mini Aceman (49)
Small < $40k Toyota Corolla (1583) Mazda 6 (1026) Hyundai i30 (849)
Small > $40k MG 4 (440) Volkswagen Golf (293) BMW 1 Series (227)
Medium < $60k Toyota Camry (488) Mazda 6 (136) Skoda Octavia (57)
Medium > $60k Tesla Model 3 (274) BMW i4 (108) Mercedes-Benz C-Class (103)
Large < $70k Skoda Superb (9) Citroen C5 X (0)
Large > $70k BMW 5 Series (64) Mercedes-Benz E-Class (28) Porsche Taycan (14)
Upper Large > $100k Mercedes-Benz S-Class (10) Porsche Panamera (6) BMW 7 Series (5)
People Movers Kia Carnival (589) Hyundai Staria (88) Ford Tourneo (35)
Sports < $90k Ford Mustang (266) Subaru BRZ (73) Toyota GR86 (68)
Sports > $90k Mercedes-Benz CLE (47) BMW 2 Series, BMW 4 Series coupes/convertibles (45) Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (31)
Sports > $200k Porsche 911 (22) Lamborghini sports cars (14) Mercedes-AMG GT (10)
SUVs: Top Three in each segment in January 2025
Light SUV Mazda CX-3 (1608) Toyota Yaris Cross (849) Suzuki Jimny (712)
Small SUV < $45k Mitsubishi ASX (1304) Hyundai Kona (1301) GWM Haval Jolion (1286)
Small SUV > $45k Volkswagen T-Roc (497) Audi Q3 (279) Volvo XC40 (237)
Medium SUV < $60k Toyota RAV4 (5076) Mitsubishi Outlander (2090) Mazda CX-5 (1872)
Medium SUV > $60k Tesla Model Y (465) Mazda CX-60 (408) Lexus NX (387)
Large SUV < $80k Toyota Prado (2847) Ford Everest (1679) Isuzu MU-X (786)
Large SUV > $80k Land Rover Defender (164) BMW X5 (147) Lexus RX (116)
Upper Large SUV < $120k Nissan Patrol wagon (621) Toyota LandCruiser wagon (413) Land Rover Discovery (23)
Upper Large SUV > $120k Lexus GX (95) BMW X7 (66) Lexus LX (49)
Utes and vans: Top Three in each segment in January 2025
Vans < 2.5t Volkswagen Caddy (47) Peugeot Partner (43) Renault Kangoo (14)
Vans 2.5t-3.5t Toyota HiAce van (810) Hyundai Staria Load (217) Ford Transit Custom (192)
4x2 Utes Toyota HiLux (508) Isuzu D-Max (409) Ford Ranger (261)
4x4 Utes < $100k Ford Ranger (3993) Toyota HiLux (2794) Isuzu D-Max (1677)
Utes > $100k Ford F-150 (230) Ram 1500 (212) Chevrolet Silverado 1500 (171)
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Wonder who the mysterious person in this wide, sun drenched continent was who bought the Citroen.

And, more to the point, has it fallen apart yet ?
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Actually, can someone explain how a Mazda 6 qualifies as a small car in the <$40K segment, yet suddenly becomes a medium sized car in the <$60K segment ?
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Ford numbers

Ford Escape – 2
Ford Everest – 1679
Ford F-150 – 230
Ford Mustang – 266
Ford Mustang Mach-E – 29
Ford Puma – 0
Ford Ranger 4x2 – 261
Ford Ranger 4x4 – 3993
Ford Tourneo – 35
Ford Transit Bus – 15
Ford Transit Custom – 192
Ford Transit Heavy – 128
Ford Total – 6830
Thank you for sharing
Usually January sales figures are a bit down compared to December’s numbers
but not making excuses for Ford. Could also be to do with people on holidays or ship timings.

I see that Prado had a good month at 2,847 with Everest falling back to 1679 which was
anticipated by Bent8 a couple of months ago…. Will be interesting to see if this rate continues.

RAV4 sales are strong while conversely, Ford seems to be readying Escape for the chop
Hoping South Africa expirement with RHD Chinese Territory extends to our market…
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I really cannot see Tesla's sales continue to go anywhere but down. Doesnt help that Musk is Trump's right hand man.
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Actually, can someone explain how a Mazda 6 qualifies as a small car in the <$40K segment, yet suddenly becomes a medium sized car in the <$60K segment ?
Supposed to be Mazda 3 I suspect.
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Thank you for sharing
Usually January sales figures are a bit down compared to December’s numbers
but not making excuses for Ford. Could also be to do with people on holidays or ship timings.

I see that Prado had a good month at 2,847 with Everest falling back to 1679 which was
anticipated by Bent8 a couple of months ago…. Will be interesting to see if this rate continues.

RAV4 sales are strong while conversely, Ford seems to be readying Escape for the chop
Hoping South Africa expirement with RHD Chinese Territory extends to our market…
Ford's overall sales was actually up 3.9% on Jan 2024 even with Ranger being down.
Putting aside some of the rubbish reviews, has Prado been released with more compromises that pre-order buyers would have liked?

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Ah yes ( said in the style of W.C. Fields ). Of course. Just a typo.
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Ford's overall sales was actually up 3.9% on Jan 2024 even with Ranger being down.
Putting aside some of the rubbish reviews, has Prado been released with more compromises that pre-order buyers would have liked?
Indeed, I couldn’t quickly find the YOY increase so thanks for confirming.
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Thank you for sharing
Usually January sales figures are a bit down compared to December’s numbers
but not making excuses for Ford. Could also be to do with people on holidays or ship timings.

I see that Prado had a good month at 2,847 with Everest falling back to 1679 which was
anticipated by Bent8 a couple of months ago…. Will be interesting to see if this rate continues.

RAV4 sales are strong while conversely, Ford seems to be readying Escape for the chop
Hoping South Africa expirement with RHD Chinese Territory extends to our market…
Escape was chopped in late 2023
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Found this re January sales

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https://www.drive.com.au/news/austra...-january-2025/

Contributing to the decline was a strike at key ports around Australia, which saw tens of thousands of cars stranded offshore for much of the first half of the month as stevedores called for increased pay.
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Escape was chopped in late 2023
Still being produced in America until the end of the year but yes, confirmed gone
even though RAV4 is killing it in USA….

My bad, I should have clarified what I was saying….

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https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/e...ry/ar-AA1yqzRE

"It was a dual-cab disaster in January"

"Interestingly, Australia's once-untouchable dual-cab utes were among the hardest hit, with Ford Ranger sales dropping 10 per cent compared to January 2023, while the Toyota HiLux (-19.3 per cent) and Isuzu D-Max (-17.9 per cent) recorded even bigger falls. Thought to be fair, the result was still enough to secure spots two, three and six on the sales charts respectively."
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"It was a dual-cab disaster in January"

"Interestingly, Australia's once-untouchable dual-cab utes were among the hardest hit, with Ford Ranger sales dropping 10 per cent compared to January 2023, while the Toyota HiLux (-19.3 per cent) and Isuzu D-Max (-17.9 per cent) recorded even bigger falls. Thought to be fair, the result was still enough to secure spots two, three and six on the sales charts respectively."
Interrupted deliveries vs lower sales?
https://www.drive.com.au/news/austra...-january-2025/

Contributing to the decline was a strike at key ports around Australia, which saw tens of thousands of cars stranded offshore for much of the first half of the month as stevedores called for increased pay.
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Is there any information available on the sales figures for the variants in the Everest range? I am curious how the Tremor sales have gone for the last two months.
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Wonder who the mysterious person in this wide, sun drenched continent was who bought the Citroen.
How people engage in masochism is completely their own business ;)
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I really cannot see Tesla's sales continue to go anywhere but down. Doesnt help that Musk is Trump's right hand man.
Musk's politics should be irrelevant when referring to car sales.
VW was founded by the guv'ment when Hitler was in power. Buying a VW doesn't mean you align with his views and values.

I haven't really seen anything suggesting that Teslas are reliable. Plenty of reported issues with build quality as well. That's the key issue. For the price, they should not have such many forums filled with negative feedback.
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Amen. Been up since 10:00pm last night. Currently doing my radio show until 8:00pm. Home by 8:45. Bed by 9:00.

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Musk's politics should be irrelevant when referring to car sales.
VW was founded by the guv'ment when Hitler was in power. Buying a VW doesn't mean you align with his views and values.

I haven't really seen anything suggesting that Teslas are reliable. Plenty of reported issues with build quality as well. That's the key issue. For the price, they should not have such many forums filled with negative feedback.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-...rump/104905068
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Sales down for six consecutive month.
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Sales down for six consecutive month.
Yes but the top five or six brands seem to be affected less than all the others.
Toyota way out in front then Mazda and Ford followed by Hyundai, Kia and Mitsubishi
in varying order depending on the month. Those ae the stand out brands for me.

Once you get below those brands, monthly sales fall from high 3,000s to low 2,000s by 12th spot.
After that is seems to be a long trail comparatively minor sales from lots of brands..
Post 2 in this thread shows them all, wow lots of brands with few sales…


I’m not surprised that sales numbers are lower it’s just intersting to see how much choice buyers have.
I wonder how many of those vehicles and brands have big stay away sign over permanency and long term support…
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I wouldnt read too much into the port strike situation.
I frequented our port regularly throughout late Dec to end of Jan and although the holding yards were all but empty early on, they were chock a block by mid Jan with truck loads leaving left, right and centre and this is little old Adelaide, can imagine Eastern states would have been processing too.
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